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Dhaulagiri and Annapurna Summit Area Update
Thursday, 20 May 2021 15:49

Recently some important additions were added to the Annapurna and Dhaulagiri Summit Area PDF´s. Especially distances are now shown for all the different "summit" points. Note that for examples the distance on Dhaulagiri to the "Metal Pole Area" is about 140 m, the distance between the Western Rocky Foresummit to the top is about 60 m; on Annapurna from Ridge Junction to the tops is about 65 m and from the tops to C0 is about 190 m.

 
Kangchenjunga, 16th October 2021
Wednesday, 21 December 2022 19:14

On October 16th, 2021 the first post monsoon ascent of Kangchenjunga after 17 years was reported. In the mean time it was established by various sources that the summit was not reached according to us by about 130 m distance and about 50 m in altitude difference. Please have a look into the explaining PDF here. The complete version with more details you can find here. The new main tables are updated with the new knowledge.

First article

ExWeb article

 
Research Results 2
Saturday, 30 July 2022 13:24

After the editorial our team answers "Frequently Asked Questions". In addition we post a "Sample" with several evidences for different finish points. The "enlarged" table now includes a comparison between the historical first three finishers and the confirmed new three finishers. Also the different distances to the "true" summits are noted and explained in a separate table with examples. Finally the women's tables are updated with the current ascents. Additions and corrections are possible in the future.

FAQ
Sample
14 8K enlarged table
Women collectors table
Women Nations Table

 
Broad Peak Summit Details
Friday, 15 January 2021 20:59

After the detailed descriptions of Manaslu, Dhaulagiri I and Annapurna I summit ridges now the summit ridge of Broad Peak is explained in detail in PDF format. You can find it here!

 
True Summits or Tolerance Zones?
Wednesday, 31 July 2019 13:23

I have been collecting facts about mountains and mountaineering for four decades and I have always sincerely believed that: ‘The highest point of a mountain is the only point that counts as summit'. But in recent times, with more research and better technology, it has become apparent that this absolute topographical approach does not match the reality of climbers and the tops of the 8000m mountains. For the last seven years some colleagues and I have been researching many summit photos , particularly on the three 8000m mountains Manaslu, Annapurna I and Dhaulagiri I that have issues with their precise summit locations and their records of who climbed to where. It is clear now after all this research and communication that many mountaineers, including some well-known ones, have definitely failed to reach the very highest points on one or more of these mountains due to their uncertain topography. Instead, climbers have stopped, knowingly or not, on a selection of lower points - some near to the main summits in altitude and distance, some not so much. To deal accurately but realistically with this sensitive problem we have come to consider the possibility of ‘Summit Zones of Tolerance’. But of course even with this broadening of allowable ‘summits’ it may still affect the historical record of Himalayan climbing. Should some finishing points that are too far or below the true summit be deleted from the official summit lists? Should we have two tables of submitters - a ‘General List’ of those who stopped only within the Tolerance Zone, and then an ‘Elite List’ comprising those who can surely be proven to have stopped on the true highest point? We wish that the climbing community will assist us to find the best solutions to deal with this serious problem. There will be people who think, this is not important. Let us leave it as it is including general “amnesty” for all “historical” ascents. But many others would also love to know, how many really did all true tops of the 14. But it is not only because of the collectors with “all” 14 8000ers climbed. All country firsts, female firsts, winter firsts, route firsts and surely other firsts need to be researched properly.

Manaslu Annapurna I Dhaulagiri I

 
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